Life, Identity and Everything – a chat with Tim Bray and Breno de Madeiros from Google

Last night I took part in the Life, Identity, and Everything Google developer chat with Tim Bray and Breno de Madeiros.

Tim Bray is the Developer Advocate, and Breno de Madeiros is the tech lead, in the group at Google that does authentication and authorization APIs; specifically, those involving OAuth and OpenID. Breno also has his name on the front of a few of the OAuth RFCs. We’re going to talk for a VERY few (less than 10) minutes on why OAuth is a good idea, and a couple of things we’re working on right now to help do away with passwords. After that, ask us anything.

Here is the video of the chat:

To summarise the event they said that Google are committed to OAuth 2.0 and OpenID. They intend on all Google APIs supporting OAuth 2.0 and they believe it has helped developers develop for Android because support for the OAuth dance is baked into the Android APIs making it very simple to integrate with it.

They also feel that Mozilla Persona is a promising (but complicated) protocol; however they feel that on mobile devices it will cause problems in terms of the user flow.

I asked two questions which Tim and Breno answered:

”What do you think the future of OAuth is? Eran Hammer publicly quit as the editor and claiming the v2.0 specification is “more complex, less interoperable, less useful, more incomplete, and most importantly, less secure”. Will there be OAuth 3?”

and

“Could a ./well-known/oauth file published at each providers endpoint help with interoperability? This file would describe their implementation responds with json or text, which grants are supported, etc”